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Civic Eyes Forming Village of Hampton Bays

Hampton Bays Civic Association wants the hamlet to incorporate.

A group of residents in Hamptons Bays are resuscitating the long talked about idea of incorporating as a village to gain some independence from Southampton Town and have more of a say over their own neighborhoods.

The Hampton Bays Civic Association has put the ball in motion to start the process that has been talked about since Bruce King, the president of the civic association, was a kid 60 years ago.

With residents complaining of more blight in the area and overcrowding, and the town not moving fast enough to provide a remedy, King said now is the time to revisit the issue.

To that end, the Hampton Bays Civic Association has set up a meeting on Jan. 28 to explore the idea of incorporating the hamlet as a village.

"We want people's opinions, ideas and backing," he said. "And if they aren't going to back us, then we will do something else."

Things came to a head in Hampton Bays in late August as another group of residents, calling themselves Concerned Citizens of Hampton Bays stepped forward. They hired an attorney, held a largely attended meeting and set their sights on cleaning up Hampton Bays.

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King said the civic is fully supportive of the Concerned Citizens and is welcoming them to fully participate in the possible formation of a Hampton Bays village.

"They are younger than us, have the money and are enthusiastic," King said.

  • Related: Concerned Citizens Leader Supports Hampton Bays Incorporation Proposal

King also hopes to enlist the support of other area organizations and has extended invitations to Hampton Bays' fire department, beautification committee and school district.

"We feel we are in the backseat along with Flanders, Riverside and North Sea. The town was doing good for a while listening to us and we were getting some action, but now they just do what they do," said King, pointing to the 10-year-old Hampton Bays Draft Generic Environmental Impact Statement, which has never been completed.

As a village, Hampton Bays could continue to share some services with Southampton Town, such as the police department, but it would have its own planning board, zoning board of appeals and board of trustees to govern many aspects of local planning and development.

King said he knows full well that incorporation won't be an easy task and says he wants to do it right, starting with a public meeting.

"This is not something that will happen by the summer," King said. "We will need petitions, an attorney, a vote and money."

To help get the ball rolling, the guest speaker at the Jan. 28 meeting will be Bill Biondi, the mayor of Mastic Beach, who was elected after residents of the area successfully formed a village within Brookhaven Town in August 2010.

The public is invited to attend the civic meeting Jan. 28, which will be held at 7 p.m. at the Hampton Bays Senior Center.

Patch wants to know: Do you think Hampton Bays should be its own village? Comment below.

Editor's Note: The article has been changed since its original posting to reflect the correct name of the mayor of Mastic Beach.

Betty Manzella January 17, 2013 at 08:07 PM
Unfortunately you have some incorrect facts in your story. Paul Breschard is the FORMER Mayor of Mastic Beach Village. He was our first, and the only ELECTED Mayor as well as the Chairman of the Mastic Beach Village Exploratory Committee. He resigned about half way through his term, and a new Mayor was appointed by the remaining Village Board Members to complete the unexpired term. The new Mayor has not run for re-election as of yet. The Village Committee started with members of the Pattersquash Creek Civic Association. The Mastic Beach Property Owners Association was vehemently opposed to the creation of a Village.
maria January 17, 2013 at 09:45 PM
If there they successfully incorporate the village then that will be another tax. One for the village and one for the town of southampton. Its a nice idea but a lot of people can't afford the taxes we are dealt with now.
Citizen January 18, 2013 at 01:48 PM
This was look into about 9 years ago and it was determined not to financially feasible
Erica Jackson (Editor) January 18, 2013 at 01:49 PM
Betty, Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The current mayor's name is now stated.
tom January 18, 2013 at 02:06 PM
..........We want people's opinions, ideas and backing," he said. "And if they aren't going to back us, then we will do something else." whats the thinking about ''something else'' ....in other words, what are other options
tom January 18, 2013 at 02:08 PM
i agree with adrien nice idea but if it means my payting out more money, another tax..... hey, let's think this through
Hbjoker January 18, 2013 at 03:20 PM
great idea, should have happened years ago!! Why do we have a group now called "Concerned Citizens of Hampton Bays" and what are they concerned about? I checked into it and it seems they are a little concerned about the overcrowding of the school's, why were they not concerned when the school was planning to expand in the 1st place? Are they going to demolish the school to reduce the heavy tax burden it has placed onto the residents? A school district is another form of a goverment entity who collects taxes from our goverment to operate. Perhaps these concerned citizens who most likely have childre in this district should pay a "Tuition" on top of their taxes to pay for their childs education. Their are alot of senoirs, single people living in this "Blighted" hamlet that do not have kids but are being "Taxed" asif they do. Concerned my foot!
baywoman January 18, 2013 at 03:26 PM
I am happy the HB Civic Assn is looking into this. Maybe it won't be feasible but wha is the downside of looking into it? Nothing ventured, nothing gained. We have a do-nothing on the Town Board who allegedly represents HB. He is a joke. does nothing to protect or correct. Makes a nice appearance. That's all. HB needs elected officials to take the problems seriously and not just pay lip service especially around election time.
MARY January 18, 2013 at 03:32 PM
I live in Mastic Beach. Since we became a VILLAGE, there has been more section eight Rentals than ever before. Why?? More revenue for the Village. Take a ride around Mastic Beach and see if you think it has been cleaned up. People do your due dilligance before voting.
Squeaky January 18, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Uh Michael...the seniors and single people in HB were likely educated or their children were educated here for FREE by previous generations of taxpayers. Thats how it works.... The children educated there now will be doing the same for your grandchildren....
Doug January 18, 2013 at 08:09 PM
That was my first thought as well. Taxes are far too high now.. Not many locals can afford to pay for another layer of government..
baywoman January 19, 2013 at 01:43 AM
I think we should try to find out as much as we can. It may not be more expensive. E.g. If we get serious code enforcement, we may have fewer kids in school district. Also, I think LIPA and Verizon and Cable pay fees to lowest form of govt. that means $ that goes to the town cold go to the village. There is no harm in finding out what we can.
b January 22, 2013 at 09:49 PM
I don't understand what your criticism is. Our school has many children that attend who do not live in the school district. They should attend the schools where they live. What does that have to do with paying a tuition? If less children attend the school the school will need less $$. Right? EQ asks for proof of residency yearly. HB asks for it when you enroll your child, when they enter Jr. High and when they enter High School. Perhaps you should find out more about what these people are saying. I know that the school issue is only one of their points.
John Gilligan January 26, 2013 at 02:45 AM
Does Hampton Bays really want to follow the example of Mastic Beach? If you want Brookhaven villages to use as an example you should use Center Moriches & Sayville. True you could turn out like Port Jeff but you could also turn out like Patchogue; and who in their right mind would want to be the Patchogue of the Hamptons. Better that you gain more say within Southampton Town government. Hampton Bays has a large enough voting base that it can get concessions on zoning, police patrol (the Town Police is located on Old Riverhead Rd for God's sake; not to mention that Hampton Bays has a State Police Barracks). I understand not wanting the Hamlet to turn into Riverside, but Hampton Bays is, as my Dad says, the place where all the people that work in the Hamptons live. It should stay that way.
John Gilligan January 26, 2013 at 02:49 AM
This push to make Hampton Bays a Village will most definitely drive up taxes because there is almost no Dune Road, multimillion dollar tax base properties to taxes out the ass because they have more than 4 bedrooms (this is how Quogue and Westhampton Beach maintain the best schools east of SR 110). Instead peoples' property taxes will go up tremendously (go to http://www.zillow.com/ and look up East Moriches, both house prices and taxes).
John Gilligan January 26, 2013 at 02:49 AM
Sayville has a government presence within Brookhaven Town (aka Brooklyntown, aka Crookhaven town, aka etc) that keeps the town away. This is what I would advocate. Paying for police service from Southampton Town, while being an incorporated village will make taxes go up (it happened in Mastic Beach too). If Hampton bays had hundreds of house on Dune Rd and along the Bay that sold for more than $1.5 million the story would be different, but the truth it they don't and never will. Thus incorporating will price people out of the Hamptons. If people in Hampton Bays are so worrried, why don't they use the laws already on the books for twenty years; Southampton Town already has a law that their can only be maximum 2 people per bedroom and 1 car per person at night. That what brought down the Westhampton Beach party zone and one of the reasons why WHB is now the "Family Hampton." (This has made business owners in WHB lose money, but they can't fight the village board) Beware Hampton Bays...it won't be all sprinkles and rainbows (especailly with the Fire Depts history of burning down the Black people's house during the 50's and 60's)
b January 26, 2013 at 05:56 PM
@ John Gilligan, your reference to the fire department is completely uncalled for. Not to mention, the State Police Barracks has not been on Flanders Road for a few years now. Perhaps you should base your comments into this decade.
Honest Frank January 31, 2013 at 08:45 PM
January 31, 2013. The Honest And Frank Truth is that all Villages like The Incorporated Village Of Mastic Beach, NY is infested with Corrupt Members Of Organized Crime that I, Honest Frank of HonestFrank.com am Exposing For Who They Really Are, like the Evil, Corrupt, MasticBeachVillageExploratoryCommittee.com, MasticBeachPropertyOwnersAssociation.com, VictorZeleny.com, Officer Kevin M. Wustenhoff 2218, Mastic Beach, NY Mayor Bill Biondi, etc., who all LIED about me so that I would be Arrested for a Bomb Threat that I didn't even do, to try and ruin my Good name hoping that I Stop Exposing them and hoping people will not vote for me to be the Mayor since I was planning to run for Mayor in 2010 to do what's RIGHT, because William E. Biondi was planning on running for Mayor after using Paul Breschard, just to Incorporate Mastic Beach, NY, because Paul Breschard was a well known Retired School Teacher, and so much more so I am running for Mayor Of Mastic Beach, NY in 2013 to Fight Organized Crime in The Village Of Mastic Beach, NY, who broke their Promises to the people just to get Incorporated, from Terrorizing and Legally Robbing the residents of Mastic Beach, NY when the residents could've Profited from an Incorporated Village and A Whole Lot More that you can learn about on my site and that's TheHonestAndFrankTruth.com.
Brady February 19, 2013 at 07:24 AM
dont worry about Honest Frank, he is just the local nut job, the male version of Mastic Mary/Montauk Mary/Alice.
Honest Frank February 19, 2013 at 01:41 PM
February 19, 2013 Heaveno Shady Brady, You're Projecting yourself because You're the Local Nut Job who's an Evil Devil Organized Criminal of Mastic Beach, NY that I am Exposing For Who You Really Are like I am Exposing Mayor Bill Biondi for doing Breaking Village Laws and trying to stop MB Residents from signing my Petition to run for Mayor because he is Legally supposed to have the Mayor and Trustee Petition and Election CALLED OFF ON ACCOUNT OF BLIZZARD and have a RESOLUTION to restart it over again at the MBV Meeting so that the residents of Mastic Beach, NY have a FAIR chance to run for Mayor or Trustee of the Village Of Mastic Beach, NY, even though by LAW the Mastic Beach Incorporated Village is supposed to be DISSOLVED LEGALLY because they Broke Several Village Laws making it where it Legally has to be Dissolved and everyone knows that I am a Normal, Well Adjusted Person who's just Good and Fights For What's Right who...
Honest Frank February 19, 2013 at 01:41 PM
...Exposes People For Who They Really Are For Their Own Good and For Everyone's Own Good So That They Will Be Happy And High On Life Like Me Without The Need To Smoke, Drink, Do Drugs, Tattoo and Body Pierce themselves desperately trying to be SPECIAL when they are Not unless they are Good and Honest And Frank like me so go back to that Rag called Topix to try and make me look Bad that keep Banning me for telling TheHonestAndFrankTruth.com and the only reason why you posted here is because I am getting the people to realize that you Organized Criminals are all Lying about me and that they are going to Vote for me in the Mastic Beach Village Election so People of Mastic Beach Village please visit HonestAndFrank.com/HonestFrankForMayor and Vote for me, Frankie "Honest Frank" Cucchiara of Honest Frank.com for MAYOR OF MASTIC BEACH, NY!
Honest Frank February 19, 2013 at 02:10 PM
February 19, 2013 Dear Erica Jackson of Patch.com, I Joined Patch using Facebook so you all know WHO I REALLY AM but you really shouldn't allow just anyone to post without knowing WHO THEY REALLY ARE because many people are going to LIE, SLANDER and CYBER BULLY, etc., like this "Brady" character because they know that they might not get Caught and get in Trouble so please make it where people can only post on Patch if they are VERIFIED like I am VERIFIED on Facebook or you just might be LIABLE for allowing certain posts that cause people to commit SUICIDE! Thank You And God Bless America and God Bless The Veterans & Active Duty Military and all who Fight For Our Freedom like Honest Frank! Sincerely Honest And Frank, Frankie "Honest Frank" Cucchiara HonestFrank.com
Honest Frank February 19, 2013 at 02:19 PM
February 19, 2013 Dear Erica Jackson of Patch.com, Also, please make it where it shows our Facebook Photo and the Facebook Logo like it is showing yours of Patch so that people will know who is actually posting that will Lesson Stalking, Slander, Cyber Bullying, etc., which is THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR EVERYONE'S OWN GOOD! It will though stop some posters from posting but it is much Nicer and Safer this way so please contact Patch to Implement what I would like done from Patch. Thank You Erica. Sincerely Honest And Frank, Frankie "Honest Frank" Cucchiara HonestFrank.com
Honest Frank February 19, 2013 at 03:01 PM
February 19, 2013 Heaveno Betty Manzella, Stop Lying about things and Start being Good for a change or You Will Be Exposed For Who You Really Are by me. The MasticBeachPropertyOwnersAssociation.com was NOT opposed to the creation of a Village! Bob DeBona and the MBPOA members made believe that they were against it because Legally they had to because of the MBPOA LAW states that they are NOT ALLOWED to BE IN FAVOR of the Creation of a Village, so that they will not Sell the MBPOA PIECE BY PIECE FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL GAIN, which is what they are actually doing now! The MasticBeachPropertyOwnersAssociation.com, MasticBeachVillageExploratoryCommittee.com, SmithPointVillageExploratoryCommittee.com, Pattersquash Creek Civic Association, Osprey Point Civic Association, etc., are all members of Organized Crime who are now in POWER of the Mastic Beach Village that I am Exposing For Who They Really Are and that's why Organized Criminals like the MB Mayor, Bill Biondi and others all Lied about me and had me Arrested for a Bomb Threat and made up 4 charges against me that I didn't even do and that's TheHonestAndFrankTruth.com...
Honest Frank February 19, 2013 at 03:02 PM
...Mayor, Bill Biondi was illegally Appointed as Mayor without Legally having a Mastic Beach Village Mayor Election and Breaking Many Village Laws and more and the MBV, Bill Biondi, MBV Lawyers, etc., are all to be held Accountable for their CRIMES and the Mastic Beach Village DISSOLVED! If you are really a Good News Reporter and can an Honest Private Investigator, contact me for an Interview and you will have THE STORY OF A LIFETIME when I Expose Organized Criminals For Who They Really Are and Take Back Our FREEDOM IN AMERICA! Sincerely Honest And Frank, Frankie "Honest Frank" Cucchiara HonestFrank.com
joe hampton March 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM
ll i hear is a bunch of whining about taxes going up when that will be your savior. Take control and drive out the garbage.Your houses will double in value

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