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Canoe Place Inn Application Submitted

An application was made to the Town of Southampton on February 23.

A site plan application for the Canoe Place Inn property in Hampton Bays was officially submitted to the Town of Southampton on Feb. 23, according to Jim Morgo, spokesman for the developers, .

The application was originally anticipated to be submitted in October 2011, but was stalled due to ongoing "internal issues."

The site plan includes plans for the restoration of Canoe Place, which sits on 5.8 acres, as well as for the construction of a residential planned development district on the 7.2 acres of canal properties the Rechlers own.

According to the application, the Reichler's plan to restore Canoe Place Inn as an inn with 20 units along with a catering facility and 200-seat restaurant with bar area.

The plans also call for the construction of 40 town homes - not condos - along with an amenity building, pool, private marina and sewage treatment system.

The entire proposal is being treated as one , with a “swap” of development rights allowing for seven additional units – meaning 40, rather than 33 units on the canal properties are being offset by the community benefits. The application mentions a benefit of an open space purchase.

According to Jennifer Garvey, aide to the town supervisor, the town's land management department is currently reviewing the application and it is expected that the town board will discuss the SEQRA process for the project at it's March 23 work session. A copy of the application will soon be made available on the town's website and it is currently available at the town clerk's office.

Ralebird March 14, 2012 at 10:30 PM
A "town home" is a term of design; a "condo" is a type of ownership. These buildings can be both; what are they trying to differentiate?
john langan March 14, 2012 at 10:33 PM
I am so glad that they are going to restore this building. I worked at CPI for many years and saw many of the historic pictures of this building and i will find it interesting to see what the place looks like after the restoration
STB March 15, 2012 at 10:53 AM
What a shame. I am going to miss Tide Runners. Nothing like pulling up to the restaurant by boat, sitting by the canal enjoying some music, food and drink. A few years back there was talk of developing the area into something similar to the Gosman's Dock in Montauk, too bad that is not happening. Instead we will have a wall of town homes lining the canal and some open space somewhere with no water view.
New Guy March 15, 2012 at 04:40 PM
The Town board along with the Planning board should be fired!! These people are useless. What a waste, This is what they came up with, Save a teardown? Get rid of the restaurants that bring money and people into town? If you people want to save the CPI then move it across the street to Town property. The historical society, planning board & town board can go down on nights and weekends to fix the place up. Look around people the Montauk Highway in Hampton Bays looks awful compared with other parts of the Town. There is no good reason for having a planning board, we have a Town Code. Want to save money FIRE those people they are a waste of your money and time....
b March 15, 2012 at 05:43 PM
There is a tax difference between a Town Home and a Condo. The designation was created at the request of the community/town to net a larger tax advantage to the district.
E. Trillo March 16, 2012 at 03:09 PM
If the Town Board approves this obvious circumvention of the zoning law they should be voted out of office. Replacing waterfront restaurants with town houses increasing the already densely populated Hampton Bays School district with another 60 units is a bad deal. Restaurants with waterfront access are part of the charm of Hampton Bays which has always been a boaters paradise. Taking away irreplaceable waterfront restaurants and replacing them with densley populated housing reduces the value of Hampton Bays community. With the Lobster Inn, Tidewaters, and One North closing and being converted to condos or town houses, Hampton Bays will be losing three great waterfront locations to appease our greedy development community. This would not be tolerated in Southampton, Westhampton or Quogue. What is wrong with our town planners and our town board? Allowing the Rechlers to put some "lipstick on the pig" and dumping the CPI on the town as a trade off for 40 Townhouses is the last thing needed by Hampton Bays. Please go to the public meetings on this topic and tell the board to reject this unnecessary PDD.
bay side March 16, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Let's get real- the CPI will not be restored to its former self. The members of the Town Board will long be gone and the residents of HB's will be stuck with a "white elephant" and 40 Town houses. The Town Board speaks out of both sides of its mouth. On election day they promise "no more density" in HB's, but when the Nassau developers come knocking with political contributions they sing another song. The Board spins this as a "community benefit" . Let the developers do what they want on CPI property and East of the canal WITHIN THE ZONING LAWS. NO PPD. These two properties should be treated independently. This Hamlet changing issue should be put to a referendum
b March 17, 2012 at 07:01 PM
"Let's get real- the CPI will not be restored to its former self." Where did it say this?
E. Trillo March 19, 2012 at 05:10 PM
The CPI is a very large building, if you look at the R Squared Pre-submission Report, on page 24 it says the building contains 98,445 Sq Ft of floor space on two floors. At a meeting last summer the R Squared Architect stated that they were planning to spend about $2,000,000 to restore the building itself, plus restore the grounds around the CPI and restore the cottages at added cost. That means they are planning on spending about $20 per sq foot to restore a 78 Year old building that has not been maintained in over 30 years. If you look at the CPI it needs everything, A roof, siding or repainting, windows and doors, updated flooring, plumbing for kitchens and bathrooms, fire places, new electrical components and wiring, septic systems and sheet rock, plastering and interior painting. That kind of renovation work costs from $250 to $400 per sq foot in the Hamptons. Based on this it looks like the R Squared's plan under estimated the cost. I would be worried that they could get their permits for the Town Houses and CPI using the PDD to circumvent the zoning laws then build and sell the town houses and leave the town with a partial restoration of the CPI. The town should not approve this PDD because there will be no "Public Benefit" but if they do approve it, the CPI restoration should be completed and approved first, then the permits for the Town Houses could be issued. The CPI must stay in private hands and not end up being maintained by the Hampton Bays Taxpayers.
Michael C. Stephens March 22, 2012 at 12:17 PM
I agree, the board should be fired for what they are doing all over HB. They have let buildings go up everywhere that that don't fit the area and they have to get code enforcement to start cleaning up. JUST LIKE FOSTER AVE! You want our main road to look like that?

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