What Our Readers Think: Altschuler Endorsed by Independence Party

A round-up of reader's thoughts on the Randy Altschuler's Independence Party enforcement.

Patch readers had a lot to say about an announcment this week that Republican Congressional candidate Randy Altschuler received the endorsement of the Independence Party — a party line that Democratic incumbent Tim Bishop had in 2010 when Altschuler narrowly lost to him.  Bishop received 7,370 votes on the Independence Line, while he ended ahead of Altschuler by just 593 votes.

The following is a round-up of what our readers had to say. Keep the conversation going and post your thoughts in the comment section below.

wrote, "Perhaps in years past the Independence Party endorsement was important. However, its recent history of reversing local branches' endorsements and imposing its own make it clear that it is wholly a creature of its chairman, Frank MacKay, and no more than a signboard for the expression of his eclectic political preferences.

said, "It is important, because this one act is going to cost Bishop the election."

Jeff commented via Southampton Patch's Facebook page, "Excellent choice - he is by far a better candidate than Bishop"

said, "I guess the independence party is proud to support the outsourcing of American jobs."

wrote, "Party Chairman Frank MacKay said Altschuler received the endorsement 'by virtue of his background as a self-made businessman who came from humble beginning to achieve the American Dream.' He left off the rest of the sentence...'by destroying American jobs.' There, fixed it for you!"

said, "'...received the endorsement 'by virtue of his background'" Yes, and I have a charming bridge for sale between Manhattan and Brooklyn!"

said, "Great! Congratulations to Altschuler for this small win."

said, "The Independence party endorsement serves as a handy source of income for the Frank MacKay family and has never stood for any principles other than its survival on the ballot. Most voters registered as members of the party don't even realize that they did so. I guess Altschuler outbid Bishop in bucks for he party."

said, "I served served several years as the Chairman of the Independence Party in Southampton. I met many wonderful people during that time, one of them was Tim Bishop. Tim epitomizes the values of the Independence Party. Frank McKay is the Suffolk County Chairman, the New York State Chairman and the National Chair, it is his bat and his ball... the Party has lost its direction. It saddens me that a fine man as Tim Bishop has lost the support of the Party, he has my support and he will get my vote in November!"

said, "Anyone familiar with the Independent Party's heirarchy knows how far a dollar can go to securing their nomination. As Randy's friend was quoted as saying, Altschuler 'will do anything to get elected.' Interpretation: Another political whore."


Maria March 25, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Amen sister!!
Tom March 25, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Let's answer a hypothetical... If not Tim Bishop, than what other Democrat would you like to see run for Congress? Personally, you know I think Tm is nonresponsive to the North Fork and should go. I also know that none of the dyed in the wool Dems here are going to vote for Randy, no surprise there. So, do any of you Dems think that Bishop might not be the best choice to represent us, and if so, what other local Dem would you think makes a good choice for us?
Local Yokel March 26, 2012 at 01:18 AM
It takes a millionaire to run for congress, hes the best millionaire we've got. No need to apologize for his business: America's future is not working in the scrap metal dump separating toxic metals, that's the future of 3rd world countries.
highhatsize March 26, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Altschuler should capitalize on the momentum of this endorsement in order to raise his visibility among East Enders. It is, after all, our indifference that dashed his hopes in the last election. To this end, I propose again that he sponsor a free "Up With Randy!" Lobster & Music Festival at Gabreski Airport over the Memorial Day weekend. A serious challenger would schedule a similar event for Labor Day and fill the calendar in between with other free public entertainments. I am told that Altschuler only spent $$3M on his last campaign. If he bumps up that parsimonious figure by a factor of four (particularly out here) he might pull off an upset. That's still only 6% of what he made outsourcing. He should take to heart the adage "Money talks and Nonsense walks."
Preliator March 26, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Tim Bishop: Supported raiding $500 Billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare; take that seniors. Voted for the unpopular Obamcare which is already $800 Billon over projected costs and it will not even be fully implemented until 2014; take that tax payers. Touts his 'seniority' as a reason to keep him but can not seem to get anything done. Was lauded as a great leader for Southampton College, such a good job in fact that the college is now but a distant memory; take that education. Tim Bishop gorges at the public troth and makes sure his family rakes in the cash while you get nothing. Take that ethics. Tim Bishop: failing Long Island for 9 years and counting.
Mary Beth March 26, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Prliar, you must work for the RNC. Those cuts were NOT to beneficiaries, they were savings wrung from providers. Not just that, but nearly every single republican voted in favor of those savings.
forward thinking March 26, 2012 at 11:15 PM
so what’s with the dem. gov't dictating out medical choices under the guise of “interstate commerce”. They had a judge rule thinking about not doing something is activity and “the new deal” expanded the definition of interstate commerce to being any activity consequently therefore thinking of not taking med. Is activity and therefore interstate commerce ????
forward thinking March 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM
mb - is that "wrung" like by the tax payers neck...
Mary Beth March 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Ft, please provide one actual, real life, detailed example of how the affordable care act dictates your medical care? You, personally. Just one.
Mary Beth March 27, 2012 at 01:18 AM
The individual mandate was a republican invention. Created by the Heritage Foundation and pushed for years by republicans. Republicans demanded an individual mandate. Their mantra was "no free lunch!". Now that we have it with no public option, with health care left to the whims of private insurers, they, and their mindless minions scream and cry. They don't want the government to to tell them what to do, unless, of course you are a woman, then they want the government to dictate every aspect of your personal freedoms. The inability to think on your own is the hallmark of right wing zombie culture
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM
There are real life issues when gov’t. Enacts legislation “for our own good”. Somehow the gov’t. gets the money, the legislatures get the bene.’s and you and I have the glorious thrill of paying for it. Gov’t. Belongs managing and not controlling. FACTUAL AND REAL IS TWO ITEMS FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE ARE: SOCIAL SECURITY AND THE FACT (YEAH I SAID FACT) THE 540+ PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON HAVE THE BEST MEDICAL / RETIREMENT PLANS AVAILABLE AND (AREN’T YOU HAPPY) YOU PAY FOR IT. Remember the pyramid on the back of money.. The govt.’ took that as the model of its creation – the broader the base of income the less apt it will crumble. THE PURE AND SIMPLE MEANING OF GOV’T. IS GOVERN NOT DICTATE. A BUSINESS FACT - Mandated benefits drive up insurance premiums; after all, insurance companies can't make more payouts without higher revenues.ADD TO THIS ANOTHER PARTY THAT HAS TO "GET" ITS PAY / FEE / BENE.'S AND THE COST IS DRIVEN UP. THE GUIDE TO BUYING INSURANCE IS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES "COST TO MANAGE IT" OVER AND ABOVE THE ACTUARIAL CHARTS THE INDUSTRY USES TO EVALUATE THE FINAL NUMBER. ADD THE COST OF GOVT.'S OPERATION - WOW
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 10:54 AM
The inability to think on your own is the hallmark of a person who follows without question, input or mindless adherence to the leader. Thank GOD there are mindless zombies on both sides of the isle that we all can look up to. These are shining examples of classic feather bedding. Lets follow the moral dem. Examples of leadership. and three come to mind.
Mary Beth March 27, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Once again, ft, please provide one real life example of how the affordable care act dictates your medical care.
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 11:22 AM
spin / spin trying to list the govt.'s medical coverage as afforable is at best like"i did not have sex with that w...." nothing in this world dictates to me my medical care if i choose not to be treated thern so be it. but to tax me for not taking medical insurance without a free choice that i fought for (did u) is a real life example . Chief Justice Marshall insisted that "should Congress, under the pretext of executing its powers, pass laws for the accomplishment of objects not entrusted to the [national] government; it would become the painful duty of this tribunal, should a case requiring such a decision come before it, to say that such an act was not the law of the land
Mary Beth March 27, 2012 at 11:51 AM
So you cannot name one specific way in which the affordable care act dictates your medical care. That is because it does not. You do not have to participate. You can choose your own health care plan, your own doctor and your doctor now has more freedom to prescribe treatment without private insurer dictates. By the way, your refusal to have health insurance is what is driving up costs. Each and every American, like myself, who pays for our insurance must pay an extra $1,600 per year in premiums to cover the uninsured. Your spin is total make-believe.
Mary Beth March 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM
WASHINGTON -- Just 2 percent of the U.S. population would be subject to the aspect of health care reform at the center of a constitutional challenge before the Supreme Court this week -- the individual mandate, a study released Monday by the Urban Institute found. The analysis said 98 percent of Americans would either be exempt from the mandate -- because of employer coverage, public health insurance or low income -- or given subsidies to comply.
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM
read (IF) i choose -- is not i dont - btw i pay 15,875.00 for the thrill of supporting the free reiders. get the point TAX ME for not having taken insur. the only isue i have is govt. dictates ant not govern. btw - i thought George was dead... enough mindless drivel from all of us --- vote your mind set - so my fighting for your freedom is of value....
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM
"its got to be randy's or erin's fault" so there
Preliator March 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM
I am still waiting for the exhaustive list of Tim Bishop's legislative accomplishments; I mean after 9+ years in office and being such critical and senior member of the Democratic caucus there must be a ton of laws and acts our beloved Rep has authored and ushered through Congress? Come on Bishophiles, tell us all the things Dim Tim has accomplished aside from collecting a a check and a little bit of nepotism?
Sparks Ne'groin March 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM
I'm not going to let you get away with spreading lies Preliator. That is NOT a little bit of nepotism!
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 12:32 PM
p - so am i - but as usual his followers spin to a topic not related to the real issue - 10 w light bulb to a harvard / fulbright person... and i am sorry Bill Bradley is not on L.I.
Sparks Ne'groin March 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM
And, don't waste your precious breath on Mary Beth. Just let her think that the government take-over is defined by something other than the government take-over of healthcare. Go inquire at the SH Hospital HR office how many doctors per week are giving up their own practice to become employees of the hospital because care rationing and medicare reimbursement rates make it such that the numbers don't work anymore. "You can choose your own health care plan, your own doctor and your doctor now has more freedom to prescribe treatment without private insurer dictates. " As for that statement, Empire Blue Cross has pulled out of the marketplace leaving 65% of the area's insured members without the plan they chose and would prefer to keep, pimples and all. Mary Beth in one post says the you don't have to participate except the Supreme Court is meeting today because of a challenge to the rule that says you do have to participate - details. As far as the $1,600 extra premium, that is completely fake. The vast majority of your health insurance rate is the cost to provide care, and there has NEVER been a reputable study that was given credit for enumerating that risk. Recent studies show that upwards of 47 million Americans will lose their health insurance if TIm Bishop's legislation is not changed. Medicare will lose lord knows how many hundreds of millions to help pay for it and if you sell your house there is a new tax that is part of the legislation. She's all washed up.
forward thinking March 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM
spark - now thats the facts - and some don't deal with truth here. lov it -
E Baum March 27, 2012 at 11:34 PM
All I know is that I want an elected official to look at the corruption in social services. There is a reason we are known as the "welfare state". I am not opposed to those in need getting help, but those who work the system must be denied the extra monies they take from the state coffers. Also, we need to curtail the padding of pension payout. I do not want someone bashing the vast majority of public servants and teachers who are in more current pension systems. Much of the public's vitriol is based on old pension tiers and a small percentage of other public servant areas who have managed to gather whopping pensions through overtime etc. and then work as consultants etc. Most state pension people pay into medical and do not get 80+ thousand dollar pensions. Please stop attacking those workers. And by the way, does anyone know what our elected officials get as far as retirement medical and how many years they must put in before they are eligible? How about their other retirement perks?
Local Yokel March 28, 2012 at 02:11 AM
Bishop must go and every incumbent must go: they are the problem, not the solution
forward thinking March 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM
i dont think the bashing was aimed at the workers but at the elected (non-workers) who after a short period get medical and retirement in the federal system. i think the total pkg. should be presented to the "public" every year in september salary, ret.,car "comp" and med costs
Doris Nathan March 28, 2012 at 07:50 PM
I wanted to email this and was unable to scroll down to the enscripted words and therefore was unsuccessful in emailing.
NuYawker March 30, 2012 at 01:06 PM
What part of running a Call Center in India makes him a good congressman on Long Island?
Ray Kerwin April 04, 2012 at 03:04 PM
Sort of like Hillary Clinton was, right?
Ray Kerwin April 04, 2012 at 03:06 PM
enjoy your Kool-Aid, sharp


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